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	<title>Comments on: Budget Planning For Our &#8220;Big Trip&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Sueblimely</title>
		<link>http://www.lighteningonline.com/2008/10/16/budget-planning-for-our-big-trip/comment-page-1/#comment-8360</link>
		<dc:creator>Sueblimely</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 15:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You could try and gather support from blogging friends who live in areas you are going to visit. I am not sure if you plan to come to Melbourne as your itinerary may be more exotic but you are welcome to park your van in our driveway and save money on camping fees. Showers and washing machine thrown in for free :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You could try and gather support from blogging friends who live in areas you are going to visit. I am not sure if you plan to come to Melbourne as your itinerary may be more exotic but you are welcome to park your van in our driveway and save money on camping fees. Showers and washing machine thrown in for free <img src='http://www.lighteningonline.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: ruth</title>
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		<dc:creator>ruth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 04:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>been surfing for you Jodie.
www.greataussieroadtrip.com.au/ is interesting.this couple have 2 girls about trailerboys age and travelled this year.Maybe not anywhere you intend to travel but might give you some ideas.The dreampot sounds interesting and i know my neighbour has one for her travels.
Hope your visit to adelaide went okay</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>been surfing for you Jodie.<br />
<a href="http://www.greataussieroadtrip.com.au/">http://www.greataussieroadtrip.com.au/</a> is interesting.this couple have 2 girls about trailerboys age and travelled this year.Maybe not anywhere you intend to travel but might give you some ideas.The dreampot sounds interesting and i know my neighbour has one for her travels.<br />
Hope your visit to adelaide went okay</p>
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		<title>By: lightening</title>
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		<dc:creator>lightening</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 00:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stuffy - I think what we're aiming for with this trip is more the experience of travelling for 3 months.  We're trying to view it as "home away from home" rather than a holiday.  That's not to say that those extraordinary experiences won't be a part of the trip, but only a small part rather than the focus.  I think balance is going to be the challenge.  And living in one another's pockets.  LOL.

Ruth - how wonderful to hear from you!!!  :)  Thank you for the tips.  Gosh, I hope we don't break 2 windscreens.  Sounds extreme.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stuffy - I think what we&#8217;re aiming for with this trip is more the experience of travelling for 3 months.  We&#8217;re trying to view it as &#8220;home away from home&#8221; rather than a holiday.  That&#8217;s not to say that those extraordinary experiences won&#8217;t be a part of the trip, but only a small part rather than the focus.  I think balance is going to be the challenge.  And living in one another&#8217;s pockets.  LOL.</p>
<p>Ruth - how wonderful to hear from you!!!  <img src='http://www.lighteningonline.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Thank you for the tips.  Gosh, I hope we don&#8217;t break 2 windscreens.  Sounds extreme.</p>
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		<title>By: ruth</title>
		<link>http://www.lighteningonline.com/2008/10/16/budget-planning-for-our-big-trip/comment-page-1/#comment-8345</link>
		<dc:creator>ruth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 07:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi jodie. Your trip sounds wonderful.My brother and sister in law did a trip around aussie in a camper trailer a couple of years ago and used a map book put out by hema i think It was invaluable for them to find  cheap or free camping grounds etc. they are not cheap,but worth the money.If you google them and also caravanning you might also get some more tips.they also had the highest RAC cover which saved them heaps as they broke 2 windscreens which were replaced free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi jodie. Your trip sounds wonderful.My brother and sister in law did a trip around aussie in a camper trailer a couple of years ago and used a map book put out by hema i think It was invaluable for them to find  cheap or free camping grounds etc. they are not cheap,but worth the money.If you google them and also caravanning you might also get some more tips.they also had the highest RAC cover which saved them heaps as they broke 2 windscreens which were replaced free.</p>
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		<title>By: StillKindaStuffy</title>
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		<dc:creator>StillKindaStuffy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 04:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two things to consider. First. Holidays (especially with family) can be exhausting. After a certain amount of time on the road you get "holiday fatigue". Constantly seeing and experiencing new things is tiring. So a longer holiday can be a less enjoyable experience than a shorter one because at some point you get exhausted by it all.  

Second. People also tend to remember extraordinary experiences from their holidays. If you see something that you want to do and that you know you'll remember doing (say a helicopter ride over the 12 apostles in Victoria) - don't put it off because that's the thing you'll remember doing in 5 years time - not getting to spend an extra week on the road just so that you can see "the big Oyster" and "The big Prawn". How many times in your life will you and the kids get to fly in a helicopter? I'm sure that you can figure out a balance - but you definitely don't want to come back kicking yourself for all the things you didn't do (within reason) on your "once in a lifetime" holiday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two things to consider. First. Holidays (especially with family) can be exhausting. After a certain amount of time on the road you get &#8220;holiday fatigue&#8221;. Constantly seeing and experiencing new things is tiring. So a longer holiday can be a less enjoyable experience than a shorter one because at some point you get exhausted by it all.  </p>
<p>Second. People also tend to remember extraordinary experiences from their holidays. If you see something that you want to do and that you know you&#8217;ll remember doing (say a helicopter ride over the 12 apostles in Victoria) - don&#8217;t put it off because that&#8217;s the thing you&#8217;ll remember doing in 5 years time - not getting to spend an extra week on the road just so that you can see &#8220;the big Oyster&#8221; and &#8220;The big Prawn&#8221;. How many times in your life will you and the kids get to fly in a helicopter? I&#8217;m sure that you can figure out a balance - but you definitely don&#8217;t want to come back kicking yourself for all the things you didn&#8217;t do (within reason) on your &#8220;once in a lifetime&#8221; holiday.</p>
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		<title>By: lightening</title>
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		<dc:creator>lightening</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 01:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Journeyer - I am hoping we get some nights accommodation cheaper but then places like the Gold Coast are more than the $50 ($66 at the moment for the place we'd like to stay at) so I'm just not sure how things will go on average.  This trip, most places we stayed at were between $40 and $50.  Plus there'll be a few nights staying in yards of peoples homes which will help.  I did notice Top Tourist parks seem to be a little cheaper than Big 4 with often just as good a facilities (if not better - the one in Mildura we stayed at was great).  I've not heard of OzParks - will have to look them up.

Thanks for the website - I could do some serious damage to our bank account there.  LOL.  I've contemplated those machines but I have to weigh up space considerations and keep stuff we take to a minimum so I'm not sure whether to go that way or not.

Sharon - your parents are very brave doing it in a camper trailer.  We considered doing that but all the setting up and packing up...  LOVE the bucket idea.  We need to get one anyway for times when we have no sullage connection so if I get one with a decent lid it could do me double service.  Will keep that in mind.  I didn't even think of dried vegetables as an option.  That would work well, even if I don't get to dehydrate any of our own, I could still buy dehydrated packets.  Any other ideas from your folks would be much appreciated.

Bettina - my biggest concern with cans is weight.  Apparently they're cracking down on overweighted caravans at the moment so we're a bit mindful of how much we pack into it (the extra weight allowed for "stuff" in our caravan is a woefully pitiful amount :( ).  I'd like to look into the rice meals though - have seen some interesting packets.  It's not something I usually pay attention to in the supermarkets.  I think my cooking is going to be a little different during the trip.  We'll definitely be taking some games and sporting equipment.  Which sporting equipment to take and not take might be the hard part.

Stuffy - oh dear, that made me laugh imagining the "anything that can go wrong will go wrong scenarios".  I hadn't really contemplated this side of things but we do have an emergency fund as part of our normal finances that can be called upon if necessary.  Although we're about to use upon it for the second time this year so I will need to make sure we have adequate funds should the need arise.

Sounds like I might need to send Farmboy out to do more work so we have more sightseeing money though.  LOL.  I guess we'll see.  I don't have a lonely planet guide (have never read one) but have done a little bit of googling.  It's going to be a tricky one.  Do we stick to a budget or just go for it while we're there.  Theme parks and a barrier reef tour are top of our list of "must do's" though.  I wasn't basing our sightseeing money on Canberra's cost - only the food.

$15,000 10 years ago.  Wow.  Hmmm.  That freaked me out a bit although I did work out that's about $10,000 for 3 months and we've budgetted double that.  Which is probably about right in terms of inflation.  BUT, you didn't have 3 kids so that could be interesting.  One thing we have found with the caravan is that we spend less money on food than we did with the camper trailer.  Sounds like I might have a budgetting challenge ahead of me though (which I guess is what I'm starting to realise - have we really budgetted enough? etc).

River - Oh dear!  Thanks for the warning.  I looked at some roadside stalls coming home (from a distance) but it's so hard with all the fruit fly restrictions we were passing through that I didn't risk it.  Might be different once we get to the East Coast though.  I was hoping to get some cheaper food this way so I'll have to be extra vigilant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Journeyer - I am hoping we get some nights accommodation cheaper but then places like the Gold Coast are more than the $50 ($66 at the moment for the place we&#8217;d like to stay at) so I&#8217;m just not sure how things will go on average.  This trip, most places we stayed at were between $40 and $50.  Plus there&#8217;ll be a few nights staying in yards of peoples homes which will help.  I did notice Top Tourist parks seem to be a little cheaper than Big 4 with often just as good a facilities (if not better - the one in Mildura we stayed at was great).  I&#8217;ve not heard of OzParks - will have to look them up.</p>
<p>Thanks for the website - I could do some serious damage to our bank account there.  LOL.  I&#8217;ve contemplated those machines but I have to weigh up space considerations and keep stuff we take to a minimum so I&#8217;m not sure whether to go that way or not.</p>
<p>Sharon - your parents are very brave doing it in a camper trailer.  We considered doing that but all the setting up and packing up&#8230;  LOVE the bucket idea.  We need to get one anyway for times when we have no sullage connection so if I get one with a decent lid it could do me double service.  Will keep that in mind.  I didn&#8217;t even think of dried vegetables as an option.  That would work well, even if I don&#8217;t get to dehydrate any of our own, I could still buy dehydrated packets.  Any other ideas from your folks would be much appreciated.</p>
<p>Bettina - my biggest concern with cans is weight.  Apparently they&#8217;re cracking down on overweighted caravans at the moment so we&#8217;re a bit mindful of how much we pack into it (the extra weight allowed for &#8220;stuff&#8221; in our caravan is a woefully pitiful amount <img src='http://www.lighteningonline.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> ).  I&#8217;d like to look into the rice meals though - have seen some interesting packets.  It&#8217;s not something I usually pay attention to in the supermarkets.  I think my cooking is going to be a little different during the trip.  We&#8217;ll definitely be taking some games and sporting equipment.  Which sporting equipment to take and not take might be the hard part.</p>
<p>Stuffy - oh dear, that made me laugh imagining the &#8220;anything that can go wrong will go wrong scenarios&#8221;.  I hadn&#8217;t really contemplated this side of things but we do have an emergency fund as part of our normal finances that can be called upon if necessary.  Although we&#8217;re about to use upon it for the second time this year so I will need to make sure we have adequate funds should the need arise.</p>
<p>Sounds like I might need to send Farmboy out to do more work so we have more sightseeing money though.  LOL.  I guess we&#8217;ll see.  I don&#8217;t have a lonely planet guide (have never read one) but have done a little bit of googling.  It&#8217;s going to be a tricky one.  Do we stick to a budget or just go for it while we&#8217;re there.  Theme parks and a barrier reef tour are top of our list of &#8220;must do&#8217;s&#8221; though.  I wasn&#8217;t basing our sightseeing money on Canberra&#8217;s cost - only the food.</p>
<p>$15,000 10 years ago.  Wow.  Hmmm.  That freaked me out a bit although I did work out that&#8217;s about $10,000 for 3 months and we&#8217;ve budgetted double that.  Which is probably about right in terms of inflation.  BUT, you didn&#8217;t have 3 kids so that could be interesting.  One thing we have found with the caravan is that we spend less money on food than we did with the camper trailer.  Sounds like I might have a budgetting challenge ahead of me though (which I guess is what I&#8217;m starting to realise - have we really budgetted enough? etc).</p>
<p>River - Oh dear!  Thanks for the warning.  I looked at some roadside stalls coming home (from a distance) but it&#8217;s so hard with all the fruit fly restrictions we were passing through that I didn&#8217;t risk it.  Might be different once we get to the East Coast though.  I was hoping to get some cheaper food this way so I&#8217;ll have to be extra vigilant.</p>
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		<title>By: river</title>
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		<dc:creator>river</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 07:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was going to mention a couple of tips for keeping your laundry costs down, but they've been covered by Journeyer and Sharon. Also the canned/dried foods, and if you spot roadside stalls selling fresh produce straight from the farm these are usually reasonably priced, although I will warn you to check these carefully. We once bought a 3 kilo bag of oranges at one and tossed it in the car only to find a few kms further along that the bag also contained ants. Many, many ants which were now ALL OVER THE CAR AND KIDS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was going to mention a couple of tips for keeping your laundry costs down, but they&#8217;ve been covered by Journeyer and Sharon. Also the canned/dried foods, and if you spot roadside stalls selling fresh produce straight from the farm these are usually reasonably priced, although I will warn you to check these carefully. We once bought a 3 kilo bag of oranges at one and tossed it in the car only to find a few kms further along that the bag also contained ants. Many, many ants which were now ALL OVER THE CAR AND KIDS.</p>
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		<title>By: StillKindaStuffy</title>
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		<dc:creator>StillKindaStuffy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 05:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something further to consider - Canberra's attractions are pretty much all "government subsidised" and "not for profit" -  so I'm not sure how much you can take away from that in terms of projecting costs about stuff to do in places designed more around extracting dollars from tourists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something further to consider - Canberra&#8217;s attractions are pretty much all &#8220;government subsidised&#8221; and &#8220;not for profit&#8221; -  so I&#8217;m not sure how much you can take away from that in terms of projecting costs about stuff to do in places designed more around extracting dollars from tourists.</p>
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		<title>By: StillKindaStuffy</title>
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		<dc:creator>StillKindaStuffy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 05:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You've left out one pretty important thing - disaster money. As a veteran of many family interstate car trips it seemed that at least one in three involved some sort of disaster - be it a sibling getting injured and requiring hospital attention, to cars mysteriously breaking down a long way from anywhere to some family emergency cropping up that means that you need to be somewhere else very quickly.  

Your sightseeing budget is pretty conservative. I'm not sure if you are considering hitting places like DreamWorld or SeaWorld - but you'll blow through almost three hundred dollars getting the family through the gate at each. Although that includes rides, it doesn't include everything else like exhorbitantly priced food and all that other stuff.  You'll be amazed at the ways that people have come up with to part you from your money in tourist destinations. You'll probably want to do stuff like go for a boat ride out to the Great Barrier Reef (perhaps even a bit of a snorkel). All of that = $$$.  Have you gotten out a lonley planet and worked out generally what you want to do at each place? At least that way you can draft a general budget and be able to assess how you are going.

Ten years ago I spent 4.5 months travelling around Australia in a much smaller car with only one person, paying a lot less for petrol, mostly staying at tent sites (at 1998 rates) and eating far too much 2 minute noodle. That cost $15,000 then. I know that you are way better with money than I am - but I was pretty darn tight on that trip.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve left out one pretty important thing - disaster money. As a veteran of many family interstate car trips it seemed that at least one in three involved some sort of disaster - be it a sibling getting injured and requiring hospital attention, to cars mysteriously breaking down a long way from anywhere to some family emergency cropping up that means that you need to be somewhere else very quickly.  </p>
<p>Your sightseeing budget is pretty conservative. I&#8217;m not sure if you are considering hitting places like DreamWorld or SeaWorld - but you&#8217;ll blow through almost three hundred dollars getting the family through the gate at each. Although that includes rides, it doesn&#8217;t include everything else like exhorbitantly priced food and all that other stuff.  You&#8217;ll be amazed at the ways that people have come up with to part you from your money in tourist destinations. You&#8217;ll probably want to do stuff like go for a boat ride out to the Great Barrier Reef (perhaps even a bit of a snorkel). All of that = $$$.  Have you gotten out a lonley planet and worked out generally what you want to do at each place? At least that way you can draft a general budget and be able to assess how you are going.</p>
<p>Ten years ago I spent 4.5 months travelling around Australia in a much smaller car with only one person, paying a lot less for petrol, mostly staying at tent sites (at 1998 rates) and eating far too much 2 minute noodle. That cost $15,000 then. I know that you are way better with money than I am - but I was pretty darn tight on that trip.</p>
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		<title>By: Bettina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bettina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 12:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We use a lot of tinned stuff when travelling too. Don't have to worry about finding somewhere to store it or it going off if not used, because we aren't trying to cram it all into a tiny fridge. And also packet pasta/rice meals. That way we are only buying fresh meat and bread (mainly) and a few extra vege's to supplement it. 

Also we always make sure to have decks of cards, some sporting gear (balls, frisbee) and perhaps a kite for passing time in a park or beach without having to fork out money for amusements.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We use a lot of tinned stuff when travelling too. Don&#8217;t have to worry about finding somewhere to store it or it going off if not used, because we aren&#8217;t trying to cram it all into a tiny fridge. And also packet pasta/rice meals. That way we are only buying fresh meat and bread (mainly) and a few extra vege&#8217;s to supplement it. </p>
<p>Also we always make sure to have decks of cards, some sporting gear (balls, frisbee) and perhaps a kite for passing time in a park or beach without having to fork out money for amusements.</p>
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